DMT Dialogues

Chapter 9

Psychedelics, Entities, “Dark Matter,” and Parallel Dimensions

Presented by Graham Hancock

Maybe we have a secret doorway inside our minds, through which we can project our consciousness into other dimensions, and through which intelligences in other dimensions may make contact with us and teach us stuff we didn’t know before. The moment our ancestors started manifesting evidence of deliberately inducing altered states of consciousness, a transformation overtakes human behavior. Stone tools, hunting tactics, and spiritual ideas all take a quantum leap forward at the same time. So is altering consciousness a portal to other worlds and dimensions, from where we return with novelty and news to implement into human culture?

I will just float this explanation: that these experiences are in some sense hardwired into the human brain and that this is why they are transpersonal and universal. But why would millions of years of evolution equip the entire human race with brain modules for therianthropes and abductions by spirits and fairies and aliens? Why should these spirit molecules only be activated in altered states of consciousness?

Francis Crick, an advocate of directed panspermia, hypothesized in the 13 billion years since the Big Bang, there has been time for life to have evolved more than once in the universe. If an alien civilization in a distant galaxy discovered it was going to be utterly destroyed by some cosmic accident, their first thought would be to move themselves, and start their project somewhere else. If they genetically engineered bacteria to make them extremely resistant, packed them into cryogenic chambers and fired them from rockets, and one of those spaceships hit the earth 3.8 billion years ago and spilled out its contents of bacteria, which immediately began reproducing and evolving, then 3.8 billion years later here we are, the end result of that process.

If our DNA originated elsewhere as a result of genetic engineering, perhaps what we’re all universally accessing in altered states of consciousness is not a hidden doorway, but a hidden archive within our own bodies, containing all the knowledge of an ancient and alien civilization. We should welcome the chance that our plant allies are offering us: to explore the whole of reality, and to discover our place within it.

Discussion

Graham Hancock: This is the question we’re all here to examine: are there real entities, real realms underneath us? Or, [is it] all made up in the human mind?

Anton Bilton: . . . When we bump into [DMT entities], sometimes it’s wonderful and divine, but many times it’s ambivalent. It’s not dissimilar to a farmer with his sheep; I’m going to look after the herd, check their teeth, probe around make sure they don’t die. My question is: are they the farmer, and are we the sheep?

Hancock: I agree with you about the ambivalent nature of the entities. There are encounters with what feels like pure evil, in those realms from time to time . . .

Bilton: Good farmers and bad farmers . . .

Hancock: Andrew, this morning you were talking about drip-feeding DMT to a group of volunteers who might be sent on an extended DMT trip? If such a group were willing to go, what would you task them with?

Andrew Gallimore: When you first enter a new territory as an ecologist or a biologist you sample the fauna and flora, establish communication perhaps, then establish a means of returning.

Hancock: Is there a category of data that could be brought back from that realm that would say it’s definitely freestanding?

William Rowlandson: If we’re trying to say “do this mathematical sum, let me pick a flower from your garden,” we’re missing a bit of the point.

David Luke: I totally agree. The research and academic community will ask, “Can you actually give us some evidence of this, beyond the experience itself?”

Rowlandson: Evidence? I mean what are you going to do? Bring back a bloody elf? I’m sorry, but it’s not going to happen.

Hancock: A friend of mine describes this realm as a university of duality--that we are here in this physical form to experience the lessons that duality has to teach. And duality has to involve the dark and the light, the good and the evil. There are lessons to learn in the physical realm and they are not for the fainthearted.

Rick Strassman: I think it would be worthwhile to have a high level mathematician start working on the mathematical possibility of bringing back an elf. You know some of Einstein’s theories were first developed in his mind from mathematical models, and then only later, 30, 40, 50 years, was there empirical data backing up his models. If it’s possible to find a sympathetic mathematician to work out some mathematical models to substantiate the possibility of bringing back an elf, I think that would lay the groundwork for future empirical work.

Luke: Maybe we can task the elves to give us a theory of everything?

Bilton: What about the coordinates of a moon or star we don’t know about yet, a little bit like a Sirius Dogon scenario? Give us something we don’t know and then we’ll get a telescope or whatever and find it.

Hancock: Yes that could work . . . But then it may not be a teaching of information from nonphysical consciousnesses in another dimension. . . . The problem we have to explain is why there are these transpersonal experiences of encounters with entities. They are apparent today, and they also cross time, and they go back deep into the story of the human race.

Jill Purce: I’m just wondering if they give their name, like Rumpelstiltskin. Hancock: If the entities give their name? Purce: Or if people ask them their names.

Hancock: Yes that’s an interesting thought. I’ve never asked them their names. “Who are you?” I like that.

Purce: Who are they, and in whose name are they working?

Luis Luna: I think if the question is “who are you?” The answer is, “we are you.”

Foreword
About the Entheogenic Plant Sentience Symposium
Rory Spowers

Preface
Objectives of the Symposium
David Luke
Acknowledgments

DAY ONE
The Origins, Evolution, and Esoteric Culture of DMT

Introduction
Exploring Entheogenic Entity Encounters
Anton Bilton

Chapter 1
The Pineal Enigma: The Dazzling Life and Times of the “Spirit Gland” Graham St. John
DISCUSSION

Chapter 2
Is DMT a Chemical Messenger from an Extraterrestrial Civilization? Dennis McKenna
DISCUSSION

DAY TWO
Frameworks for Thinking about DMT

Chapter 3
Amazonian Perspectives on Invisible Entities
Jeremy Narby
DISCUSSION

Chapter 4
Concerning the Nature of the DMT Entities and Their Relation to Us Peter Meyer
DISCUSSION

Chapter 5
How to Think about Weird Beings
Erik Davis
DISCUSSION

Chapter 6
Why May DMT Occasion Veridical Hallucinations and Informative Experiences?
Ede Frecska
DISCUSSION

DAY THREE
Exploring the Whole of Reality

Chapter 7
The Neurobiology of Conscious Interaction with Alternate Realities and Their Inhabitants
Andrew Gallimore
DISCUSSION

Chapter 8
Morphic Resonance, Psychedelic Experience, and Collective Memory Rupert Sheldrake
DISCUSSION

Chapter 9
Psychedelics, Entities, Dark Matter, and Parallel Dimensions
Graham Hancock
DISCUSSION

Chapter 10
The Nature of DMT Beings: Perspectives and Prospects
Rick Strassman

DAY FOUR
Summary and Departure

Chapter11
What We Think We Know about DMT Entities
David Luke

Afterword
What Next?
Rory Spowers

Speaker Citations
Speaker
Biographies
Discussant Biographies
Editor and Symposium Curator Biographies
Index

David Luke, Ph.D., is a senior lecturer in psychology at the University of Greenwich and a guest lecturer at the University of Northhampton. He has published over 100 academic papers on transpersonal experiences and altered states of consciousness and regularly gives public lectures and conference presentations. A cofounder and director of Breaking Convention, a biennial international conference on psychedelic research, he lives in East Sussex, England. Rory Spowers is an ecological writer, filmmaker, and author. He is the founder of The Web of Hope, a UK charity and ecological education resource, and the creative director for the Tyringham Initiative. He lives in Ibiza, Spain.

“DMT Dialogues is a courageous attempt in the best tradition of the scientific process to wrestle with the meaning of anomalous DMT experiences, reported by a substantial number of people, involving the sense of being in touch with alien intelligences. Like all great mysteries, there is no single interpretation that everybody who participated in the DMT Dialogues arrived at by consensus. Reading DMT Dialogues will not bring you certainty but rather will bring you in direct contact with profound minds struggling to plumb the depths of consciousness.” Rick Doblin, Ph.D., executive director of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies

“These dialogues are a promising and positive attempt to create a pivotal shift in consciousness. Centered on the farthest reaches of human experience, they offer fresh perspectives and open new doors. They merit being read--and read over and over again, in our own as well as in humankind’s most general interest.” Ervin Laszlo,The Intelligence of the Cosmos

“DMT Dialogues represents an important step in the scholarly conversation about the DMT world and the entities which inhabit it. By presenting insightful contributions from experts in psychology, anthropology, religious studies, and neuroscience, as well as the interdisciplinary discussions that followed, the editors have provided the theoretical tools needed to start interpreting and understanding the DMT experience. As part of the Beckley/Imperial Research Programme we are currently investigating how DMT has its effect in the brain in a pioneering study using EEG and fMRI.” Amanda Feilding, founder of The Beckley Foundation

“DMT is famous in the world of psychedelic research for inducing experiences that are short, a matter of minutes, but with effects that are profoundly dazzling and lead to lengthy essays that try to explicate the puzzle. It clearly affects the language centers of the brain! It has led to the recognition of DMT entities, which may or may not be a new class of weird beings, neither animal nor plant, molecular nor metaphysical. This book is a fascinating series of explorations of the paradigm-busting and mind-blowing experiences triggered by this substance. Just reading about them is mind-blowing!” Ralph Metzner, Ph.D., author of Searching for the Philosophers’ Stone

“Preserved in the pages of this book are some of the most extraordinary presentations I have ever had the pleasure to read. It was my privilege to attend the 2017 Tyringham Initiative DMT Symposium and to learn firsthand from the assembled scientists and scholars about their research into DMT. This substance opens doors into a hidden world, and to listen to--and read--these presentations is to discover that powerful advances are being made into understanding its meaning and potential.” Whitley Strieber, author of Communion and The Super Natural

“DMT Dialogues showcases the incredible, groundbreaking work of the Tyringham Initiative, which convenes cutting-edge thinkers and scientists exploring the edge-realms of the psyche, with the intention of furthering humanity’s understanding of what lies beyond the edge of the known.” Daniel Pinchbeck, author of Breaking Open the Head

“DMT has a rich cultural history, a radically vibrant contemporary social context, complex biological mechanisms, theological and philosophical implications, and far-reaching implications for the science of consciousness. In DMT Dialogues, David Luke and Rory Spowers have curated an accessible anthology that sparks off in many of these directions and then kindles them together into a Promethean fire for our times. Where do we go as a species with all this rising knowledge of the extraordinary farther reaches of the mind? Only time will tell, and I’m sure this book will help us find the way.” Oliver Robinson, Ph.D., author of Paths between Head and Heart

SPIRITUALITY/ENTHEOGENS

“. . . a courageous attempt in the best tradition of the scientific process to wrestle with the meaning of anomalous DMT experiences . . . Reading DMT Dialogues will not bring you certainty but rather will bring you in direct contact with profound minds struggling to plumb the depths of consciousness.”
--Rick Doblin, Ph.D., executive director of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS)

“These dialogues are a promising and positive attempt to create a pivotal shift in consciousness. Centered on the farthest reaches of human experience, they offer fresh perspectives and open new doors. They merit being read--and read over and over again, in our own as well as in humankind’s most general interest.”
--Ervin Laszlo, founder and president of the Club of Budapest, director and cofounder of the Laszlo New Paradigm Leadership Center, and author of The Intelligence of the Cosmos

Encounters with apparently sentient beings are reported by half of all first time users of the naturally occurring psychedelic DMT, yet the questions of DMT beings and plant sentience, interspecies communication, discarnate consciousness, and perhaps even dialoguing with the divine have never been systematically explored.

In September 2015, ten of the world’s leading luminaries noted for exploring the mysterious compound DMT (dimethyltryptamine) gathered with other researchers at Tyringham Hall in England to discuss the subject. Over four days, they pooled their expertise from a wide range of subjects--archaeology, anthropology, religious studies, psychology, neuro- science, chemistry, and psychopharmacology, to name a few--to explore the notion of “entheogenic plant sentience” and the role of DMT as a conduit between Spirit and Matter.

Offering cutting-edge insights into this visionary domain, this book distills the potent exchange of ideas that occurred at Tyringham Hall, including presentations and discussions on DMT entities, the pineal gland, the possibility of DMT as a chemical messenger from an extraterrestrial civilization, the Amazonian shamanic perspective on invisible entities, morphic resonance, and the science behind hallucinations. Contributors to the talks and discussions are many leading thinkers in this field, including Rupert Sheldrake, Rick Strassman, Dennis McKenna, Graham Hancock, Jeremy Narby, Erik Davis, Ede Frecska, Luis Eduardo Luna, Bernard Carr, Robin Carhart-Harris, Graham St. John, David Luke, Andrew Gallimore, Peter Meyer, Jill Purce, Will Rowlandson, Anton Bilton, Vimal Darpan, Santha Faiia, Amanda Feilding, Anna Hope, Tony Wright, and Cosmo Feilding Mellen.

David Luke, Ph.D., is a senior lecturer in psychology at the University of Greenwich and a guest lecturer at the University of Northhampton. He has published over 100 academic papers on transpersonal experiences and altered states of consciousness and regularly gives public lectures and conference presentations. A cofounder and director of Breaking Convention, a biennial international conference on psychedelic research, he lives in East Sussex, England.

Rory Spowers is an ecological writer, filmmaker, and author. He is the founder of The Web of Hope, a UK charity and ecological education resource, and the creative director for the Tyringham Initiative. He lives in Ibiza, Spain.